RE: Laid Off

["McLauchlan, Kevin" <Kevin -dot- McLauchlan -at- safenet-inc -dot- com>]

Here in Canada, we have unemployment insurance.
The generalities sound similar, except that ours is 
federal, not provincial (... er... "State" for youse guys). 
The specifics likely differ, but we have a tax man, too. 

This business about a business is worrying. 
How might it affect a full-time, long-time employee of 
some unrelated company who, at some point, became 
an officer of the spouse's little corporation, on paper, anyway? 
No salary or remuneration of any kind ever drawn.  The opposite, 
more likely - loans to the corporation from shareholders...  :-) 

One would hate to think that one had been paying so-called 
Employment Insurance premiums (taxes by another name) 
for the past <mumble> years, while being ineligible to collect 
benefits.  List members, both south and north of the border 
might want to discuss and inquire.  
Discreetly, of course. 

Off-list, some of those same people might want to discuss 
the relative [non-]wisdom of being anything with respect 
to a spouse's incorporated entity, if that entity ever got 
sued and both of you were listed... and the non-active 
party happened to be the owner of the family domicile... 
Is the house not protected if you are (say) Secretary or 
some other innocuous-sounding animal of the spouse's 
incorporated company?  It's a nice thought that you could 
step in and keep the company running if the spouse was 
hurt or killed, rather than watch it wither and shrivel during 
probate... but it's not nice if being on the wrong side of 
the corporate veil paints a bull's-eye on your back and a 
"Seized" sign on your house. 

The things that come up in random conversations.... tsk!

 -k




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> Subject: Re: Laid Off
> 
> Pennsylvania calls that the "Office of Integrity."  (good grief)
> 
> My guess, is somebody filed a complaint about a small business
> owner
> collecting PA UC after the business cards were noticed.
> 
> http://www.uc.pa.gov/portal/server.pt/community/report_fraud/20
> 597
> 
> This form looks serious,
> http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=98
> 9852&mode=2.
> 
> I think it is good for everyone to learn the laws of their state, since
> it looks like a simple side business, whether it generates revenue or
> not, can lead to trouble.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2012 4:16 PM, Milan DavidoviÄ wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Peter Neilson
> <neilson -at- windstream -dot- net> wrote:
> >> The people in those departments work on a system that rewards
> them for
> >> meeting goals that would never occur to those of us on the
> outside.
> > Ah, I was thinking of something more specific: what do they call the
> > depts. that turn you in and that investigate you, respectively? Or are
> > they part of the same dept. (of whatever)?
> 
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