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I was addressing the problem of being a "sub-contractor": working as a W2
for an agency that absorbs the extra 40K for its own coffers.
Leonard Porrello
Compaq, Telecom Network Solutions
Pubs, Omaha
402.384.7390
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Posada
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 1998 4:49 PM
> To: TECHWR-L -at- LISTSERV -dot- OKSTATE -dot- EDU; Porrello, Leonard
> Subject: RE: FWD: Advice on contract vs. captive
>
> >There is also the issue of training. As a sub-contractor, the
> companies to
> >which the agency sends you are not going to want to fork out the
> dough for
> >you to get training. How willing to pay for training is the agency
> for which
> >you'll work? And by "pay" for I mean both pay you a wage and give
> you the
>
> Contractors usualy make about 30%-40% more than their employee conterparts
> (at least around here). For me, that comes to about $40,000 more per year.
> For that difference, I'll take a week off. Besides...the cost of my
> training
> is a tax deduction for me at the end of the year.
>
> In addition, I can train for what -I- want at the level I want. When you
> leave your training in someone else's hands, you train at what -THEY-
> want.
> Besides...you ARE paying for the training...along with a number of other
> things you may have no control over. Why do you think a captive takes home
> less pay?
>
> >time, say a week in Chicago for example? Also be aware that you may
> be
> >earning less than half of what the agency gets for your labor. How
> do you
> >feel about that?
>
> ...and if you are an employee and you create a set of documents at the
> company and the company sells the documents for $1,500 per set and sells
> 20,000 sets, should you expect more money than if the document sells for
> $100 and only sells 20 sets?
>
> I know that I'm in the minority about this on the list, (we've had this
> discussion before), but I determine the rate that I'll work for, then
> locate
> the job to give me that rate. If I accept an assignment for a rate that
> I'm
> happy with, what does it matter what they are able to get on top of it. I
> hope they get as much as they can. I am.
>
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> My opinions are mine, and neither you nor my company can take credit for
> them.
> "One ought, every day at least, to hear a little song, read a good poem,
> see a fine
> picture, and, if it were possible, to speak a few reasonable words.",
> Goethe
> "Say all you have to say in the fewest possible words, or your reader
> will
> be sure to skip
> them; and in the plainest possible words or he will certainly
> misunderstand
> them.", John
> Ruskin
> "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and
> he will sit in a
> boat and smoke cigars all day."
>
