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Subject:RE: FrameMaker to RoboHelp Conversions From:"Karen Field Carroll" <kfcarroll -at- cox -dot- net> To:"'Bill Swallow'" <techcommdood -at- gmail -dot- com> Date:Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:13:44 -0700
Hi, there. Whoops, fat fingers. I meant I don't use anything BUT catalog
styles. What I meant by "apparently" mapping styles correctly in RH is that
when I'm importing the Frame file and I map the styles in the RH interface,
I appear to be doing it correctly. That is, I set up all the options I want,
but RH doesn't translate the lists into RH lists, just body text.
Thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Swallow [mailto:techcommdood -at- gmail -dot- com]
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:12 AM
To: Karen Field Carroll
Cc: Combs, Richard; Robert Lauriston; <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com>
Subject: Re: FrameMaker to RoboHelp Conversions
Hmm... I don't follow you. If you don't use the style catalogs and
aren't using override formatting, how is your content being formatted
in FrameMaker? That is, how do you have bullets in FM? That might shed
some light on the issues you're having. Also, "apparently" mapping
styles? This is a binary question; are you mapping your styles from FM
to RH (y/n)? If yes, what do the mappings look like (from what in FM
to what in RH, and how are those what's defined)?
On Aug 10, 2009, at 1:52 PM, "Karen Field Carroll" <kfcarroll -at- cox -dot- net>
wrote:
> Richard, you make an excellent point. Let me provide more details.
>
> I'm using Frame 7 (non-structured, although I know XML and could use
> structured frame if needed) and RH 7. My complaint is that despite
> setting
> up the CSS in RH and (apparently) mapping the tags from Frame to RH
> correctly, I still end up doing a lot of cleanup on the numbered and
> bulleted lists in RH. RH just treats them as body text and I have to
> go in,
> apply numbered and bulleted lists, and remove the numbers and
> bullets from
> the Frame text. RH seems to break the topics as I want it to, so I
> get the
> right topic structure.
>
> To answer another poster's question, I don't use anything by catalog
> formats; I never use style overrides.
> So, if I used structured Frame and ported the XML into RH would I have
> better luck?
> Thanks.
> Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: techwr-l-bounces+kfcarroll=cox -dot- net -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> [mailto:techwr-l-bounces+kfcarroll=cox -dot- net -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com] On
> Behalf Of
> Combs, Richard
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:18 AM
> To: Robert Lauriston; techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
> Subject: RE: FrameMaker to RoboHelp Conversions
>
> Robert Lauriston wrote:
>
>> MIF2Go costs less ($295), works better, and has better and cheaper
>> support.
>>
>> http://www.omsys.com/dcl/omni.htm
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Karen Field
> Carroll<kfcarroll -at- cox -dot- net>
>> wrote:
>>> Yikes! Hm, now scheming to figure out how to get boss-girl to spring
>> for
>>> true Webworks...sigh.
>
> I agree. But I think all the comments about WebWorks and Mif2Go are
> overlooking something and possibly leading Karen astray. She already
> has
> RoboHelp.
>
> Karen, it's not at all clear from your original post what the problem
> really is. And we don't know what versions of FM and RH you have. But
> it's likely that you can overcome the problem with the tool you have.
>
>> From what I've read, it seems that with pre-suite and non-suite
>> versions
> of the two programs, there may be some tweaking in RH necessary after
> import, but it shouldn't require large-scale reformatting (unless you
> don't consistently use paragraph and character formats).
>
> There are most likely people on this list who've used a pre-suite
> FM-to-RH workflow (there definitely are on the FrameUsers list). If
> you
> provide more information about your software, the process you use, and
> the nature of the problem, someone may be able to help you fix the
> problem with the tools you have.
>
> Richard
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
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> Free Software Documentation Project Web Cast: Covers developing
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