Re: Grammar Q

Subject: Re: Grammar Q
From: Janice Gelb <Janice -dot- Gelb -at- Sun -dot- COM>
To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:32:17 +1100

Lauren wrote:
>
> Although some grammarians here refer to the "second-person imperative,"
> absence of an explicit "person" can be interpreted as first, second, or
> third person, since *no* person is even referenced.
>
> "Click the widget to begin," can be interpreted as "____ must click the
> widget to begin." "_____" can be the author, the reader, or the user, who
> are first, second, and third persons respectively.
>

In what scenario would this be the author of the document?

As for a differentiation between "the reader" or "the user,"
this distinction is generally only relevant if the reader of
the document ("you) is developing a product for a third party
("the user"). While in that case the documentation must make a
distinction between "you" (the reader) and "the user" (the
ultimate consumer of the product being developed), imperative
instructions are never going to apply to a third person. The
text is always being read by a single person, and that person
is either the person who's supposed to be clicking the widget
to accomplish a task ("Click the widget") or the person who is
developing the widget that an eventual third party will be using
("At this point, the user clicks the widget to begin").

> I don't interpret imperative writing as second-person focused, which would
> mean that the document was written for me, the reader. When I am a reader
> of documents, I am usually an editor and I am thinking about the user of the
> document. In my head, I fill in the blank with "the user," a third person.
> So for me, the document is sometimes third-person imperative. This is also
> how I write. I don't know the grammatical terms for my writing preferences,
> although, for me, "second-person imperative" is a misnomer.
>

Are you saying here that you assume that the reader of
the document is the disinterested editor of it??? I am
thoroughly confused...

-- Janice

P.S. I haven't included thoughts on when "you" would be
relevant and useful in documentation outside procedures as
others have already responded to that issue as I would have.

***********************************************************
Janice Gelb | The only connection Sun has with
janice -dot- gelb -at- sun -dot- com | this message is the return address

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Create HTML or Microsoft Word content and convert to Help file formats or
printed documentation. Features include support for Windows Vista & 2007
Microsoft Office, team authoring, plus more.
http://www.DocToHelp.com/TechwrlList

True single source, conditional content, PDF export, modular help.
Help & Manual is the most powerful authoring tool for technical
documentation. Boost your productivity! http://www.helpandmanual.com

---
You are currently subscribed to TECHWR-L as archive -at- web -dot- techwr-l -dot- com -dot-

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
techwr-l-unsubscribe -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
or visit http://lists.techwr-l.com/mailman/options/techwr-l/archive%40web.techwr-l.com


To subscribe, send a blank email to techwr-l-join -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com

Send administrative questions to admin -at- techwr-l -dot- com -dot- Visit
http://www.techwr-l.com/ for more resources and info.


Follow-Ups:

References:
RE: Grammar Q: From: Lauren

Previous by Author: Re: Grammar Q
Next by Author: Re: Grammar Q
Previous by Thread: RE: Grammar Q
Next by Thread: RE: Grammar Q


What this post helpful? Share it with friends and colleagues:


Sponsored Ads