Re: FWD: An ugly job incident (long)

[Marilynne Smith <marilyns -at- QUALCOMM -dot- COM>]

Does everyone work in a place where there are no backups made?  My machine
is backed up daily by the company.  Should I choose to wipe out my hard
drive, they would only need to go to backups for the day before to find out
what had been on it.  In my work situation, there would be no point in
destroying the hard drive, except to get rid of anger.

Marilynne

At 07:26 AM 10/20/98 , John Posada wrote:
>Dear Anon..
>
>
>> The next day after the rumors began flying, I went through my file cabinet
>> and threw away old hand-written notes, which were on the file server in
>> electronic form. I also deleted all of my personal files from the file
>> server. If I was to be laid off, then I didn't want somebody standing there
>> while I sorted through personal things.
>>
>snip
>>
>> The next day I went into work and asked somebody from HR to sit in while I
>> met with my manager. The manager accused me of walking off with company
>> documents and stealing several items that I did not (like software and
>> books). I was told that I can't throw anything away without permission; I
>> answered by saying that they shouldn't put trash cans and white paper
>> recycling bins everywhere then. Each individual accusation was clearly
>> answered and proven wrong. But I was let go anyway under the excuse of
>> corporate restructuring. Eleven of my coworkers were let go a couple of
>> hours later.
>
>
>While you probably weren't wrong (though, what was the motiviation for
>cleaning out the files only 24 hours after thinking you may be laid
>off?), you have to consider perception vs reality.
>
>Put yourself in their place.  An employee has documents and files that
>may or may not have been important (or else why keep them for any length
>of time), and only upon hearing of a layoff, starts deleting and
>discarding stuff...and they don't know what that stuff is, since you've
>thrown it away or deleted it.
>
>In a previous life, I was involved in selling records management systems
>and records retention consulting.  Much of my consulting had to do with
>legal retention of corporate information.
>
>One of the no-nos of document destruction was to destroy information
>during any situation that falls outside of normal business procedures.
>IN other words, have a policy of when material is to be destroyed, (at
>the close of a project, when the files are delivered, every 90 days, you
>pick it) then follow that procedure. NEVER destroy material during a
>time when the information contained in that material may be relevant for
>other reasons; litigation, EEO, employee termination, etc.
>
>As far as the software, I'm a contractor and I own LOTS of software. I
>usualy install almost a dozen programs of my own, which I delete at the
>end of the contract.  However, I do two things. I submit a list of the
>programs to my manager AND I only delete the EXE, COM, and DLL files of
>the program, leaving all the data files behind.  This way, if the
>information is important enough, they can buy a copy, install it, and
>have the data back. After all, even though I used my software, I created
>the data files on their timel, so they own the data.
>
>
>>
>> They told me my severance pay depends on my manager determining that I
>> didn't steal anything. I won't know if I get my severance pay until the end
>> of this month when it will be deposited in my account.
>
>Kiss that puppy goodbye
>
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> Do you think I was wrong to throw away notes and old edited documents?
>
>More wrong than right (your timing sucked)
>
>
>> Have any of you had something similar happen, like being accused of
>> stealing?
>
>No
>
>
>> Do you think I have legal recourse if I don't receive my severance?
>
>I'm not a lawyer
>
>
>> Is this a clear case of defamation of character?
>
>I'm not a lawyer, but i'd guess No, just a bad situation. Learn and move
>on.--
>
>
>
>John Posada, Technical Writer
>Bellcore, where Customer Satisfaction is our number one priority
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>them.
>  "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish,
>and he will sit in a boat and smoke cigars all day."
>
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