Re: Ramblings

Subject: Re: Ramblings
From: Ken Poshedly <poshedly -at- bellsouth -dot- net>
To: Chris Morton <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 15:22:34 +0000 (UTC)

Yikes!! I LOVE it!! Politically incorrect or not!
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On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:01:38 AM EST, Chris Morton <salt -dot- morton -at- gmail -dot- com> wrote:

Here I thought FSKÂwas foretelling a miracle in which a popular, blind '60s singer/guitarist regained his sight.
"JosÃ, can you see..."Â
Chris MortonÂhttps://linktr.ee/IsntThatWriteÂ;   âÂSubstantive EditingÂâÂTechnical WritingÂâ Proofreading         ÂâÂB2B/B2C â Marketing ExpertiseÂâÂMentoring

On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 9:55 AM Ken Poshedly <poshedly -at- bellsouth -dot- net> wrote:

ÂGang again:
Besides bosses who had (or probably still do have) major pyscho tendencies, I -- like at least some of you -- have worked for various bosses in the past who had the English language by the throat.

One boss -- a kindly old soul, now long deceased -- proudly argued with me and a fellow worker on how to pronounce the word "kiln": Is it "kil" or "kiln"? He demanded that it is "kil" and NOT "kiln", yet the Webster's dictionary we had on hand said both pronunciations are considered correct. He said "kil" because it was presented before "kiln" in the pronunciation guide for the word in the dictionary, while I said that was only because "kil" is three letters and "kiln" is four letters.

Perhaps this kind of stuff is what turned me into a grammar (or punctuation) nazi. So just to add "fuel to the fire", advertising is not the only place where people like us notice "incorrections." (Is that a word?)
For instance, the introductory phrase often (supposedly) used by certain British speakers a long time ago, "Oh, I say, Mr. Smith, . . ."Â (at least it's what _I_ remember.) Well, it turns out that the words to our own national anthem are displayed on a huge screen at every Georgia Tech football game. (My daughter is a proud "Yellow Jacket" grad of 2017, so my wife and I attended every home-game to watch her as one of the color guard ladies.) And, for the life of me, I believe the first phrase as displayed at those games is punctuated incorrectly:

 Â- Currently -- "Oh, say can you see . . ."
 Â- My opinion -- "Oh say, can you see . . ."
 Â- I've also seen it as -- "Oh say can you see, . . ."
Yep, I DO have too much time on my hands (at least until the game starts).

I base my opinion on my believe that, due to our country still being so young and British-influenced when this was written in 1814, even American-born Francis Scott Key (and probably many others at least in the early 1800s) still incorporated parts of "British-speak" in their conversations. And the phrase, "Oh, I say, can you . . ." might have been a totally normal way to start a sentence.
So it ain't computer code, but it keeps this thread going.
-- Ken in Atlanta


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  On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:01:39 AM EST, Ken Poshedly <poshedly -at- bellsouth -dot- net> wrote:Â

ÂWith -- as far as I can tell -- no message traffic here for some time, I thought I'd start a little grammar skirmish just to see if anyone is paying attention.
1. Does anybody here (other than me) raise an eyebrow (or even cringe) when the Liberty Mutual Insurance adverts proclaim "You only pay for what you need"? Well, I ask, what else could you do other than "pay" for what you need? Not pay? Well, then, you wouldn't have any insurance, eh? My point is that it was surely the Marketing Group that came up with this incorrectly stated sentence which SHOULD state, "You pay for ONLY what you need."
2. I believe this group should have its own teeshirt for members. My choice can be viewed at https://images.kingtees.shop/teephotos/2019/08/Grammar-police-to-serve-and-correct-shirt.jpg
Finally, yeah, I know, there are "bigger fish to fry" and other minute grammar stuff to bitch about, but this list seems dead lately.
-- Ken in AtlantaWhere it's 37 degrees F and sunny at 10 am on this date
(whoever said it's always hot down here hasn't lived here)
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Re: Ramblings: From: Ken Poshedly
Re: Ramblings: From: Chris Morton

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