Unemployment compensation and self-employment (was Re: Laid Off)

Subject: Unemployment compensation and self-employment (was Re: Laid Off)
From: Mike Starr <mike -at- writestarr -dot- com>
To: techwr-l -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:26:44 -0600

I'm in Wisconsin and the rules are somewhat different here. My primary occupation is as a full-time W-2 contract technical writer. However, I also have a freelance sole proprietorship business doing technical writing and other stuff for my own clients. I've had this side business for many years. Thus, I'm also self-employed. I do this whether I'm on a contract engagement or not. In Wisconsin, you're asked if you're self-employed as part of the registration process for unemployment compensation. The correct answer in my situation is "Yes". What happens next is that a state unemployment bureau agent is tasked with interviewing you to determine if your self-employment interferes with your eligibility for full-time employment. As long as you're available for full-time employment, self-employment has no impact on your eligibility for unemployment compensation and the amount of income you derive from self-employment does not have to be reported. The only thing you have to do is continue to answer "Yes" to the "Are you self-employed?" question on the weekly claim form.

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Mike
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On 11/13/2012 9:23 AM, Kat Kuvinka wrote:

You can get compensated if you make less than your benefits, but not if you are self-employed because you are not paying the unemployment tax. You can choose to do this if you consider yourself a small company.



Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:40:16 -0500
From: robin -at- robinsdesigns -dot- net
To: katkuvinka -at- hotmail -dot- com
CC: robert -at- lauriston -dot- com; techwr-l -at- techwr-l -dot- com
Subject: Re: Laid Off

I think they found out because I was dumb/honest enough to ask about how you could work and bring in some income, but still get unemployment. There's a rule in there somewhere about that.

Robin

On 11/12/12 5:50 PM, Kat Kuvinka wrote:



The PA Web site says "You are not eligible to receive benefits if you have fewer than 16 credit weeks in the base year." And in your base year you worked for 6 months (~26 weeks) so you should be eligible for something. I do not think the intention is that you had to work for 15 consecutive months. You will just get less.
I worked for the Oregon Employment Dept and that is how it worked there. Here in PA, I almost had a claim turned down because I worked for 2 months as a 1099 contractor. But I appealed and got the compensation.
How the heck would they know you printed business cards?

Robert,

I'll have to wait a week or so to try since I am being paid through this
week. A couple of years ago when I was on it they were all pissy, "You
aren't even eligible yet" and then when my unemployment was about to run
out they turned me in to investigate whether to make me pay back $1,100
of my unemployment just because I'd had business cards printed trying to
just do something in anticipation of my unemployment running out.

Robin

On 11/12/12 5:19 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
I think you might be misreading the eligibility requirements. I'd file
a claim. Worst case they reject it.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Robin Davidson<robin -at- robinsdesigns -dot- net> wrote:
Correct. The site says 5 quarters and I was there Jan-Nov and I have a side
business (which I haven't touched this year) which disqualifies me as well.
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References:
Laid Off: From: Robin Davidson
RE: Laid Off: From: Cardimon, Craig
Re: Laid Off: From: Robin Davidson
RE: Laid Off: From: Kat Kuvinka
Re: Laid Off: From: Robin Davidson

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