RE: Taking a slightly different tone

Subject: RE: Taking a slightly different tone
From: "Technical Writing Plus" <doc-x -at- earthlink -dot- net>
To: "'Handy, David'" <dhandy -at- Informatica -dot- com>, "'Peter Neilson'" <neilson -at- windstream -dot- net>, "'Keith Hood'" <klhra -at- yahoo -dot- com>
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:06:20 -0600

Actually, it can be that hard. No, you are not just talking; you are
contributing your hard-earned English language speaking ability to the
project. And that, my friend, is nothing to sneeze at. I know that and I
have not even heard your spoken English.

And then there is the equipment. That itself can be costly. If the company
will be supplying rented time at a studio, and if you feel confident in your
voice and if they feel confident in your voice, then perhaps they could use
you as some ind of untrained voice talent - but they should supply the
coaching services too. I would guess that this arrangement could work out
well.

On the other hand, if they want you to take responsibility for the quality
of recordings etc., then if I were you I'd consider walking away very fast.

Let me ask -- What if you were to prepare some document for a large modern
corporation by using only a manual typewriter (or, as has been joked about
on this list, handscribe it with pencil and paper or carve it into stone)?
Using whatever you could find as media for writing on?

I myself do not have any experience with this business - But it seems to me
that David Handy's comments are relevant. But how about somewhere in the
range of $10 to $40 per finished minute of recorded material for your
services as an untrained voice talent?

Jim Jones

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Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 10:22 AM
To: Peter Neilson; Keith Hood
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Subject: RE: Taking a slightly different tone


Twenty five dollars for each hour for finished product? When each hour
probably takes two to complete? So Keith can expect about a hundred bucks a
day? Wow I would have thought/asked for more...

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[mailto:techwr-l-bounces+dhandy=informatica -dot- com -at- lists -dot- techwr-l -dot- com] On
Behalf Of Peter Neilson
Sent: 18 September 2009 17:13
To: Keith Hood
Cc: Techwr-l
Subject: Re: Taking a slightly different tone

(Keith asked about fees for voice recording work.)

If you are a professional speaker or announcer and have a portfolio that
proves the quality of your work, then you might command that fee.

All depends on how professional the clients wish to appear.

You can find professional voices at voices2go.com, where my friend Jay
displays his mellifluousness at http://www.voices2go.com/jay/index.html
.

If your voice doesn't sound like an automobile horn, lacks the common "uhhh"
and "ahhh", and can actually prevent snoring among the audience, you just
might get the correct rate. Otherwise, your clients will likely expect to
pay you about $25 for every hour of finished product, and then feel
short-changed afterwards.

"Can't be that hard. It's just talking, right?"

Keith Hood wrote:
> This post may be a waste of time but I can't think of anyone better to
ask...
>
> I've been asked to provide a quote for doing some voice recording
work, for a company that is fielding some web-distributed training. I'm told
it would probably be about 8 hours' work.
>
> I have gone online and researched the going rates for voice work, and
they are frightening. Apparently it's normal to charge by the *second* at
rates like $200 for a 30-second gig. I and the people doing the training
materials have no experience in this and I'm pretty sure asking for $100 for
each 15 seconds is a good way to scare them off.
>
> So, what do you think would be a good rate? This came to me through a
friend who is working form that company as a technical writer, and most
likely the company is thinking of paying for the voice work in the same
manner as her. They're probably thinking of an hourly rate in the same
neighborhood. If I got a new gig as a tech writer I certainly wouldn't be
making money by the second on it, and I have nothing better to do right now.
>
> I have to get back to them by 3 this afternoon, so if you open this
message for the first time after that, you may as well not waste your time
replying. Unless you just feel like throwing something out on general
Friday-whathtebleep principles.

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