Fw: degrees

Subject: Fw: degrees
From: "Bev Corwin" <bev -at- enso-company -dot- com>
To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- raycomm -dot- com>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 13:59:00 -0700


> Dear Bill,
>
> My 2 cents:
>
> I believe that education and knowledge are important. I do not believe
that
> a degree means a whole lot one way or another. I certainly do not believe
> that all degree holding persons are educated or knowledgeable. I prefer
to
> not screen resumes by whether or not an applicant has a degree. I look
for
> quality of work and accomplishments. I look for qualities like integrity,
> honesty and commitment. I look for creativity and skills. I believe that
> screening or excluding based on a degree is a form of discrimination.
> Particularly in the case of age discrimination with women, since not long
> ago, far fewer women had the opportunities to go to college. I also
> believe it is a way to discriminate against people from rural areas and
the
> underclasses who did not have access to Universities, for example. The
> current education cult mentality degrades self-learning or individual
study,
> but look at the accomplishments of home schoolers across the country. In
> America, we once had a grande tradition of self learning. Only since
> education has become institutionalized has it also become so shallow. Our
> first University was not intended to be a degree machine. It was intended
> by Thomas Jefferson to be a place where people could spend parts of their
> lives learning and studying, more of a life long learning model. Of
course,
> institutions will have difficulty supporting or understanding any creative
> process. Its like asking a machine to be a poet. The institution is a
> machine, the degree means that someone completed just that, the
education
> machine. Most education institutions are significantly behind the curve,
as
> well, so the very creative thinkers will find that intolerable. I believe
> that screening based solely on a degree is, also, a way to discriminate
> against people who were of college age during economic recessions or war
> time. I know many who had to drop out of school in the recession of the
> 1970's and go to work. Look at the Vietnam era, how many young people
went
> to war instead of college. One photographer I know who dropped out of a
> degree program for economic reasons, later was asked to teach at the very
> college he dropped out of because of his professional accomplishments.
The
> same is true today that many college age students are forced into the job
> market, and cannot finish degrees because of the economy. I believe this
> contributes, of course, to the high unemployment stats, as well. Its a
lost
> opportunity for them. It will take them longer to complete school, while
> working, and some may never do so. I never use any one characteristic to
> decide whether or not a person is capable of doing a job, or not. I look
at
> the whole person, how they managed their challenges, and what they made of
> their opportunities.
>
> Bev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Buckheit" <kcbillb2 -at- kc -dot- rr -dot- com>
> To: "TECHWR-L" <techwr-l -at- lists -dot- raycomm -dot- com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:50 PM
> Subject: degrees
>
>
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > I'm getting lots of interesting responses to this thread, and I'll
> > summarize on Friday.
> >
> > Now, I know that some of you out there don't have a degree. I'd
appreciate
> > hearing from you too. As we all should know, it isn't a degree or lack
> > thereof that's important, but how well you do the job.
> >
> > Looking forward to hearing from all of you.
> >
> >
> > Bill Buckheit
> > kcbillb2 -at- kc -dot- rr -dot- com
>
>
>




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